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I get 60 fps. This may just be a fill rate / GPU usage issue. That comp might be pushing you close to 1/60th a second, adding Syphon (a render to FBO phase for the screen size introduces more fill rate), maybe pushing you over the edge.
Does the FPS change with the size of your viewer changing?
You must be using an old Syphon Server patch, or something. I am getting errors restoring the patch, looking for a resolution key.
Ensure you are using the latest Syphon QC ?
Either way, ill take a peek, but thats the first thing I noticed.
This bug is fixed in SVN. We will try to put together an update of the QC implementation out soon as a compiled download.
Thank you for the report.
Mesh Renderer composition is probably referring to QC’s mesh renderer, the standard built in Patch object for rendering DAE (Collada) files. I do see there is a bug somewhere where the texture binding is being lost. Will have to look into that.
Hrm, it ought to just bring in the colors. Do you mind uploading the model somewhere, along with a screenshot in the editor?
What editor? What model format?
Thanks.
The trick is to use the mobile versions of the movies that are not flash (which Quicktime no longer supports), but that are h.264.
It totally works. You just have to account for alpha pre-multiplication. Lower the colors brightness as you drop opacity (multiply the rgb values by the a value). Works fine here in Jitter. Two video planes on top of one another, one offset with low alpha, from Syphon:
Over blend mode (GL_ONE, GL_ONE_MINUS_SRC_ALPHA) should be able to composite that fine. If you are having jitter issues, its really nothing we can do about it. This problem has nothing to do with Syphon, but is an issue specific to Jitter. Post in the thread I linked to on the C74 forums.
Change your blend mode to 1 7. That should do it. Most apps use an “over” blend mode as default (the 1 7), but Jitter uses Mix, which is also fine. Its just a choice. Now because they don’t clear the color buffer when erase is 0, 0, 0, 0, you see issues you may not normally see.
Blending to 1 7 should fix that.
This is totally a Jitter specific issue. I’ve opened a Q/A on their forum. Stay tuned for a reply from Cycling. From now, this is near as I can tell, a Jitter specific issue. They are not clearing the same way as most other GL apps. Its not a “wrong” thing to do, but a choice (how the trails happen). Now, you could probably fiddle with the blend mode to get something appropriate, but not having GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT cleared when erase color is transparent black is going to cause compositing issues regardless.
http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=36463&replies=2#post-176982
Ah, I can re-create it if I disable another layer in Simple Servers QC comp. I see the issue. It has to do with how jitter clears the back-buffer.
Jitter defaults to a erase color of 0, 0, 0, 1. If you clear with 0, 0, 0, 0, it looks correct. This has to do with the blend mode math, default being over, aka 6, 7.
Since the erase color alpha component is 1, not 0, it looks different from every other app. Most applications do not do a clear the same way jitter does, as far as I can tell. (Erasing to 0, 0, 0, 0 does not leave artifacts like it does in Jitter in any other app).
Hrm. I cannot re-create:
I am on a 2010 MBP (MacBookPro6,2), NVidia GT 330M (512MB) running 10.7.2
I am running in Max 6. Are you on 10.6.x, under Max 5 ? Mind giving us a little more to go on ? 😉
Could be a color space issue with 10.6.x, Quartz Composer (which is what Simple Client and Server are using behind the scenes) does color management. Jitter, etc, does not. So there may be a slight difference, but it should not be as drastic as in your shot.
Looks about the same here. One thing Simple Client is doing is using color sync automatically to match to the output device (thanks to Quartz Composer). Jitter is not. However, I don’t see it darker.
Post a pic? I’ve never heard of this complaint before. Perhaps its specific to certain hardware?
Hi.
yes, I am aware of the issues with the current Syphon for Jitter Public Beta 2 and Max 6. I have fixed a few outstanding issues on the SVN repository, but need to fix a few other bugs to properly work with implicit contexts, etc.
Stay tuned, and sorry its not up and running immediately. We are, sadly, the only ones doing heavy lifting on the plugins for almost non *every commercial implementation* out there (QC, Jitter, PD/Gem, Processing, OpenFrameworks, FFGL, etc) plus the framework itself. Plus our day jobs (and the v002 QC plugins).
Ask Cycling74 to inherit the Syphon object. Seriously. I made the offer to give them the code, but they were deep in Max 6 development at the time. Clearly they are better suited to support it than we are. We need help with supporting all the implementations, and almost no one is stepping up.
It also does not help that the Jitter SDK is nightmarish.
Excellent, glad it is working. Mind posting some info about the setup at all? I’m sure others would love to know about this work.
Hi, Sorry to say, there is so a lotwrong with that patch.
I am assuming you want the jit.gl.mesh out to Syphon? You have to @capture it. jit.gl.syphonserver has *nothing* hooked up to it. How do you expect it to do anything with no matrix or texture input? You have to send a jit.gl.texture, or a 4 plane jit.matrix.
Did you read the read me?
“jit.gl.syphonserver – allows jit.matrices and jit.gl.textures to be named and published to the system, so that other applications which support Syphon can use them.”
Did you look at the help file at all?
“jit.gl.syphonserver publishes a jit.matrix or a jit.gl.texture to the system,”
“Create a matrix (you can also send the output of a jit.gl.texture object).”Perhaps it could be more clear, but..
Now, there is an issue where @captured textures are flipped in Syphon, as you can see here. Im sure you can figure out a way to fix that. We have a few bug fixes for Jitter coming soon for Syphon, ill see if I can’t figure that one out.
One additional note – this could be in a more advanced example perhaps. You need to ensure rendering order for Syphon. You have to use @layer or @automatic 0 and order bangs to ensure Syphon renders last in a a chain, otherwise you won’t have anything to send out, since nothing is rendered yet.
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You cannot, ever, nor will you ever, be able to use 3rd party plugins in FCP by dropping QC Compositions into the timeline.
This is the same reason Quick Look does not work. If you had googled your problem you would have found out that Quicktime, Quicklook, Safari, Finder, Final Cut Pro and many other applications like Modul8 use Quicktime for playback of QC comps. Quicktime playback of QC comps uses “safe mode” and does not allow 3rd party plugins to load.
You can sort of hack around it.
If you want proper, 100% support of QC in FCP, look into purchasing FX Factory Pro from Noise Industries (disclaimer, I work for them). It lets you load QC compositions you make as native plugins in Final Cut Pro.
Please, next time
– Don’t hijack a thread for a different problem
– Make new thread so its clear what you are doing. I thought you were trying to use these in VDMX, as the thread topic states
– Clearly state what you are trying to do. Saying it does not work tells me nothing, and makes me think of the context of the thread you are posting/hijacking.Im not trying to be a dick, but you really need to be more clear, more specific, and give as much information as possible. How was anyone supposed to know you were using these in FCP?
You mention the QC Comps work in the QC Editor. What is not working in VDMX? Have you properly installed the qxFX? Have you enabled the effect on a layer with media? No one else, ever, has had it not work in VDMX and not have it be an installation problem.
Did you actually attempt to follow the instructions I posted above? Or google search any terms you did not understand?
You need to realize that the Beta plugin version 3, is its own new distinct plugin class.
Open QC editor. Type v002 in the search path for the Library. With *only* the v002 Rutt Etra installed in“/Library/Graphics/Quartz Composer Plug-Ins/”
And nothing else in your home folder, Library/Graphics/Quartz Composer Plug-Ins/ folder?
Do you see anything?
QuickView will never show patches with 3rd party plugins installed.
